More provocations directed at Iran

I agree about that.

But I don’t understand your giving Trump a pass for doing the same. But oddly, as much as you have a clear understanding of USFP, you can’t see Trump doing the same.

Then condemn Trump’s provocations.

Boris Johnson is not clear-cut on the matter but the provocation seems to have been a NATO decision.

Trump who can’t stand NATO is being pushed around by them…:flushed:

These two statements verify your idiocy and Trump derangement syndrome.

Basically, you suggest FDR should have ignored the Japanese attack of Pearl Harbor and continued to negotiate with the cowardly Japanese diplomats that were in Washington at the time.

Yet you ask people to condemn Trump’s “provocation” as if to say his killing of one terrorist (and a few of his cronies) who had already killed hundreds of Americans and thousands of his own people and his strengthening of sanctions against Iran are somehow comparable to Pearl Harbor.

You are truly a sick puppy. It is no wonder that few people here give credence to much of you say.

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There are certain things he can stop, and certain things he can’t.
That’s the way of politics.

It would be under the rule of a reformed Saddam Hussein if you hadn’t effing topped him you fool! And I think we paid you back for your WW2 generosity, but it’s so long ago :roll_eyes: that I’ve forgotten. You still don’t get, do you, that every time you poke your nose into the affairs of other countries you make everything 10 times worse than they were?

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Charles de Gaulle could read the handwriting on the wall and said goodbye to NATO in 1966.
He knew NATO was a sham.

Right, well given the fact that the navy had conducted their own mock attack on Pearl Harbor in 1932, with the same results as the literal attack by Japan, and concluding that the harbor was too shallow, with too narrow an entrance/exit, the US Pacific fleet was kept at San Diego. To this day Pearl Harbor is not used as it’s not suited to it.

Admiral Richardson in command of the pacific fleet, an expert on Japanese warfare, their propensity for surprise attacks, and well aware of the 1932 assessment, was ordered to move the PF to Pearl Harbor. So incensed by the stupidity, he traveled to DC to personally confront FDR and was relieved of command.

And then of course we have all of SOW Stimson’s journals of the time documenting the other various provocations of Japan, including sailing ships very close to their mainland, ships that according to Stimson, FDR was willing to sacrifice.

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You have no shame.

Typical lib.

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Now that’s darn funny. NATO forced Trumps provocations on Iran…yep

No, that’s just you fantasizing again.

“Reformed Saddam Hussein” :rofl: :sweat_smile: :joy: :grinning:

It could have been done if only we’d had the nous to do it - and Iraq would be the same as it was, with him knowing he was on notice. But what did we do instead? Why we topped him. DOH!

So you’re saying both Bush presidents fucked it up?

Bullshit, there’s absolutely nothing to suggest Saddam could have ever been reformed. He was a maniacle mass murderer with dreams of grandeur.

Even the loss of 80% of his military personnel and equipment in the Gulf War didn’t dissuade him, he simply rearmed and recruited a new army of almost a million men hoping that at the threat of using WMD’s would be enough to prevent anyone stopping him again.

It was a fatal mistake.

In different ways but yes.

One of the frequently-used words (the other one being ‘ignorant’) made against other PB members by the guy who can’t grasp the concept that it’s cheaper for NASA to make up and publish clickbait fake news than to research the real science of the universe. My words for you, Mr Fucking Know-all, are ‘gullible’ and ‘egotistical’.

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I respect your candor, sir.

I’d rather be called a “know-it-all” than to be a no nothing moron who’d rather grasp desperately to idiotic conspiracy theories than to even consider actual facts.