Michigan nothing good happens there

@Dr_Manhattan

Liberals have spent years decimating norms of discourse. Pushing through a generational reform bill without half the country participating degrades the norms of democracy. When they lost Congress over this abuse, not only did they accuse Republicans of standing against the American people (even though the GOP kept expanding its majority) but said their position comprised nothing more than racism. Conservatives were no longer political opposition, they’re people who hate decency, democracy, the poor, the black, the infirm, America, and the system. As this thinking coagulated on the mainstream Left, Democrats had the moral justification to do what they liked.

Never let a good discourse go to waste :roll_eyes:

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@Dr_Manhattan I currently work for a plant that is owned and operated by General Motors. Yesterday was my first time back in over a month - due to the lockdown. I have been working there for over 5 years now. Not everyone is back working there yet. But my hours have been cut. I used to be full-time with full benefits. I still have the benefits. But not the hours that I used to work. My hour pay is nothing compared to the others. But at least, I get by (like buying stocks and helping out volunteering on weekends for a few hours at a food bank.).
But there are days that I just want to go straight up to the State House in Lansing and, well…you get the point, hopefully.
It makes me mad that we have a Governor that is bent on keeping the lockdown as long as she wants. I can understand the reasons behind it. I get that. But the longer she keeps this lockdown, she is willing to take this state further down the downward spiral. Not that this state, and many others are suffering. But Detroit used to be the Automobile capital of the world. Now it’s a dump. It’s barely surviving.
I didn’t vote for her. But I am more than happy to vote her right out! And anyone else that wants to take this state further down.
It makes me sick that these folks would actually vote for her. Or even Rick Synder. It’s almost as if these folks continue to “help” vote these thugs in, it is hopeless to even bother to “try to make this state great again!”

:roll_eyes:

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It is time for the sheep to wake up.

Or not.

What can Trump do to combat a lifetime of indoctrination and those who support subversion of our constitution and rights?

That is up to you and me. Trump will be gone in 5 years. :woman_shrugging:

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Good for you, Ichigo.

Neither government nor business is a friend to you.

If people would just understand they are on their own in life and plan accordingly they’d be much better off in the long run.

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Well, more to your point it’s either now or never. What we are currently seeing across the country especially in “blue zones” as they are now being referred to, led by authoritarian dictocrats, should have every citizen concerned. As I said before, the country currently is in a very fragile state, and if governors continue with their current dictatorships of pinning the populace down and preventing their civil liberties it’s going to end very badly for everyone. It’s going to be one very hot summer if this crap continues.

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#WETHEPEOPLE TIC TOC :timer_clock: :timer_clock: :timer_clock

That would be referred to as personal responsibility.

The left and deep state hate personal responsibility as it limits their power to control.

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Happens when there is limited demand. Our auto dealerships ar still i shutdown more and likely will not re-open until the 1st of June yet everyone thinks that things will return to normal. That may happen in a year or 2 when government control ends.

The choice was made and now you live with that choice as we do.

To be honest, I am not complaining. I am just fortunate to even have a job. So, I am grateful. :slight_smile:

EXACTLY , works every time !

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It’s not about complaining but about expectations.

Did any say, when we go back to work, many may have an extended wait of short hours?

Every governor was quick to shut down their businesses and said squat.

As of today, she lifted some of the restrictions to her “beloved” lockdown fiasco, by letting plants around the state to reopen. Of course, with limited number of employees in the plants and mandatory mask wearing.
I have no problem with wearing masks. But I don’t have the full 40 hours I was working before the shutdown. I am barely working 20 hours a week.
I can see this trend to be now the “new norm”. Just like everything else. That not everyone - no matter how long they have been working anywhere - aren’t going to be able to work the full 40 hours.

Some of my friends are even saying, “If the money we are getting for not working - why even bother going back to work?” :roll_eyes:

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I ran an ad for help wanted.

120 applicants.

You know how many actually showed up?

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Well, either not everyone knows they can return to work…or they aren’t bothering. They rather collect the employment, since they are probably getting more than if they were working. On top of that, some have already received their stimulus checks. Then on top of that, they are probably selling pot on the side.

Yup. Just keep applying to get the check rolling in.

This is just one plant out of many in the state. So, I really don’t know how the other plants around the state are dealing with the shutdown.
I am sure it will take a few months before everything is back to semi-normal. If there is such a thing.
On a side note:

I wouldn’t mind picking up more hours, since the plant I work is practically empty. I wouldn’t mind working the mandatory 12-hours on - 12-hours off, they used to do. That is when you work 5 days straight 12-hour shifts. Have the two days to rest and start it all over for 3 months. Then after your three months are up…you don’t have to work those 12-hour shifts - unless you want to. But it is given to you if you choose to do so. You just work your regular shifts - then you go back on the 12-hour shifts again the following week.

(Hmmm…did I even make any sense to what I said? Lol)

Seems a bit strange most businesses are running at half or quarter capacity and you need an additional 125 , WOW !
What happened to the employees working there before the lockdown ? Why not call them back ?
If an employee is recalled to his or her job THEY MUST GO BACK OR LOSE THE UNEMPLOYMENT AND THE EXTRA $600 . I along with many others think getting more on unemployment than you were getting working is WRONG but it’s limited and conditional , meaning you MUST return to your job when recalled period .

As I mentioned, my friends have asked, “Why bother going back, when I am getting as much now via employment +stimulus, than I would be making if I go back to work?” A lot of these folks up here have that mentality.

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My apologies as I should have explained this better.

I ran an ad for help wanted. I only need two positions filled.

I had 120 applicants. Most were nowhere near qualified for the position. Just throwing their application in for unemployment requirements.

Of the the weeded out 120 applicants, I had an interview lined up every 1/2 hour for the entire day. Only two actually showed up for the interview.

Those that could work remotely did. The others I simply paid 40 hrs per week.

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