Iwo Jima-Battlefield Question

Does that justify the bombing of Dresden where 100,000 German women and children were burnt alive?
Dresden was neither industrially nor militarily important.

Shells were fired at random, at cities and at villages.
On the morning of the attack, the residents were shocked to see the island surrounded by American ships.

Dresden was a legitimate military target which was hit in response to the bombing of London.

The targeting of London was all the justification needed.

Complete BS. The Navy didn’t have the resources to waste shelling cities blindly.

By that point in the war the US had the most precise targeting of Naval gunfire in the world using a combination of radar and observers as well as forward controllers calling in precise targets.

You’re just making up BS as usual.

There were two primary reasons for the high civilian casualties. One, the Japanese conscripting them and forcing them to fight, and two, the high suicide rates among the civilian population.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZNEHFpVI5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XfCxqGjKMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XfCxqGjKMQ

No one can justify such massive deaths and it is regretful that such events happened. I was not there and cannot second guess what field commanders had done. How about the 8 million ■■■■ murdered? Hitler was launching V1 and V2 resulting in thousands of British civilians perishing. Mans inhumanity towards his fellow human is boundless. PS: A Naval 16 inch shell can be fired up to 22 miles.

Have you asked any Jap historians what do they think of the Rape of Nanjing?

It doesn’t have to be justified, it was war and the object was to kill the enemy.

Yes, Navy guns have a max range of around 22 miles plus/minus but they also had to keep the large ships far enough off shore to avoid them being hit by the shore based naval guns and field artillery which cuts their max range inland by over half.

The 155, 10, and 12" Japanese guns had ranges from 12-20 miles.

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They had shore based artillery that could even seriously damage or sink our biggest capital ships if they moved too close to the shore.

It’s no different from the “holocaust” narrative(s).

There are those who defend the mainstream narrative, those who claim actual villains were the Kuomintang soldiers (who were fighting communist Mao) and revised views that the figures are bloated out of proportion after Japan’s defeat.

Most people who are interested with Iwo Jima overlook the naval battle that occurred on Day 2 of the invasion. A small group of Suicide Pilots flew long range zero´s and crashed into the medium aircraft carrier USS Bismark Sea. The carrier sank fairly quick and there were hundreds of survivors and deaths. The USS Bismark Sea would be the last aircraft carrier sunk in WW 2.

Jbob if you want to wrap your head around why the civilian casualties were so high put your feet up and watch this documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XfCxqGjKMQ

Like I’m saying, the battle of Iwo Jima could have been avoided, had FDR let Japan capitulate earlier in 1945.
But he didn’t, because he was a cabbalist (according to Texe Marrs) and following an agenda.

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Codex Magica, page 530

Tex Marrs is insane and a conspiracy nut.

Japan was never willing to offer a complete and unconditional surrender at any point in 1945 or prior.

Even after two atomic bombs they still insisted on keeping the Emperor.

Prior to that none of the entreaties they made would even consider ceding back any of the territories they’d cowered and all required their military be left intact.

There was no possibility any of the allied leaders would consider a surrender on those terms.

Watching another documentary on WWII I was reminded of the reason Iwo Jima was so essntial.

It was directly inline with our bombers flying from the Marianas, almost exactly halfway between Tinian and Todyo and it’s three airfields held the largest concentration of fighters in that part of the world in 1945.

Whether we occupied it to use for our own purposes or not it was absolutely essential to deny it as a base for the Japanese fighters.

Their longer range fighters could launch from Iwo and harass the bomber strings all the way to Tokyo then land, rearm and refuel and hit another flight on the return trip which would have been devastating to our strategic bombing plans for Japan. LeMay demanded that the base be completely destroyed or taken from the Japanese otherwise the cost in American pilots, crews, and aircraft was going to be devastating dragging the war out for another year or more.

This is a great documentary overall but the last half hour or so focuses on the Campaign in The Pacific from May of 45 to the end.

Really excellent material for anyone interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXgAXvitC44

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What part of him is insane? Being a pastor or professor?

Could it be that any scholar who is inconvenient for you is insane and a conspiracy nut?

How about we start with these two “Gems”.

Marrs has been accused of being anti-Catholic.[13] In 1999 he alleged that former United States President George H. W. Bush would be involved in a black mass in a chamber within the Great Pyramid of Giza during the 2000 millennium celebrations.[14] Christian writer Constance Cumbey has accused Marrs of plagiarizing material from her book Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow .[15]

Additionally, Texe Marrs has promoted a book, The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World is Not a Moving Globe , by Edward Hendrie, which alleges that the planet Earth is immobile and flat.[16][17] Marrs also offers Hendrie’s book which asserts this argument through his ministry,[18] and books by Hendrie alleging that the world is being manipulated by a vast ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ conspiracy.[19]

Just a few more.

  • The Oklahoma City bombing was planned and carried out by the American government.[3]
  • Judaism is the most evil satanic cult that ever existed and ■■■■ are conspiring to overtake the whole world through deceit and cultic worship.[4][5]
  • The terrorist Timothy McVeigh was framed.[6]
  • Hillary Clinton is a doctrinaire Marxist who has recruited other America-hating subversives for key administration posts.[7]
  • “Newt Gingrich is a closet Marxist and member of the occultic secret society known as the Bohemian Grove.”[8]
  • “Bill Clinton is an establishment hack, a member of the traitorous Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, and Council of Foreign Relations. He and Hillary are deep into Egyptian occultism and Masonic magic.” [8]
  • Robert Dole is a 33rd degree Mason and a fake conservative. He’s anti-Jesus Christ.”[8]
  • Bill Martin’s plans for a Christian naturist resort is evidence that Satan is subverting Christianity.[9]
  • Described as the “conspiracy theorist to end all conspiracy theorists” for his book Codex Magica: Secret Signs, Mysterious Symbols, and Hidden Codes of the Illuminati , which purports to expose a secret conspiracy between politicians and other famous people through modern history.[10]
  • Hillary Rodham Clinton has Orwellian political ambitions.[11]
  • In his book, The Usual Suspects: Answering Anti-Catholic Fundamentalists , Karl Keating debunks Marrs’s claim that the Pope plans to head a one-world order.[12]
  • “As the above report and photos … indicate, foreign troops are now permanently stationed in our country… We must steel ourself [sic] for what may soon come. The dark clouds surely are gathering. We may not have much more time.” (January 1997).[ citation needed ]

  • “Even our children are being stealthily indoctrinated into the new faith… The Mattel Toy Co. has introduced its new ‘Goddess of the Sun’ Barbie doll. Is this the Whore of Babylon spirit, alive and with us today?” (March 1997).[ citation needed ]

  • “Yes, you and I will continue to pay taxes for the maintenance and upkeep of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. But we no longer own it. Now, the UN has ultimate jurisdiction”.[ citation needed ]

  • “The UN and its elitist masters don’t want you on their property! And in case you do “trespass” and enter forbidden areas of these pristine UN lands, you might just be shot. U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service agents and park personnel are now taught to love nature’s Mother Earth and to despise and loathe human beings. They are being given firearms and instructed to use them. Meanwhile, foreign immigrants from India, China, Pakistan, Bulgaria, Russia and other nations are being recruited for this national park service police duty because, unlike U.S. nationals, non-English speaking foreigners will not hesitate to carry out orders and shoot American citizen “intruders”.” (June 1997).[ citation needed ]

  • “Is the NIV the Feminist Bible for the New Age?” (August 1997).[ citation needed ]

  • “To the Illuminati, this is a year for which they’ve long awaited – the triple witching of the Beast year.” (November 1997).[ citation needed ]

  • “Texe Marrs uncovers insider news the controlled media dare not report: … Hillary Clinton reveals family secret masquerading as a Christian and Gentile, she’s actually ■■■■■■ and her grandmother was the Yiddish-speaking Della Rosenberg. Why is the First Lady only now telling the world she’s a ■■■■■ (Secrets (Vol. 39)).

  • “Is Ron Paul a Bible-believing Christian that believes in the book of Genesis all the way to Revelation? I seriously doubt that, but compare him to these other clowns. Compare him to these other buffoons. Compare him to these other lying, blaspheming dogs. Am I a bad person for saying things like that? It’s just true.”

Secrets (Volume 133) 25:10 August 2007.

  • “Now let’s get this straight. You’re a pastor of a church supposedly or a bishop. A guy in your church is a big homosexual ■■■■■■■ and he’s a U.S. senator, but you know people might accuse you of meddling if you told him if that’s a sin and that he’s going to have to leave the church if he doesn’t change.”

Secrets (Volume 133) 43:45 August 2007.

  • “The goal of the ■■■■■■ Masonic elite is to establish dictatorial Illuministic Communism and to enslave all mankind under the thumb of a ■■■■■■ master race led by a world messiah who is to rule from Jerusalem.”
    • “Masonic ■■■■ Plot to Control World” from Conspiracy World (2010) {pg 179}.

Calling him a “crackpot” would be a compliment.

No wonder you hold him in such high esteem.

“Professor” of what? What university? The American College of Conspiracists" or perhaps “The University for The Clinically Insane”?

Wikipedia…
How laughable when it comes to its editorial slant

Those are footnoted direct quotes of your “hero”.

Marrs was no professor, he never even finished his Master’s.

He was a part time teacher teaching one course on his conspiracy theory about the Kennedy Assassination at a Jr College.

Debunk any one of the claims presented. The source is not nearly as relevant as the information presented.

“If you can’t refute the facts attack the source”.

Go ahead and attack the source.

Pastor Texe Marrs, former professor at University of Texas and career Air Force officer.

“President Franklin D. Roosevelt was both a 32nd degree Mason and a cabbalist, crypto-■■■■ As his family tree clearly demonstrates, Roosevelt’s ancostors came from the Netherlands and were of ■■■■■■ blood lineage. Here, fishing in the Golf of Mexico off the Texas coast in 1937, FDR signals the V of cabbalistic occultism, using, however, his thumb.”

CODEX MAGICA by Texe Marrs; 2011, RiverCrest Publishing, Austin, Texas, Page 530


FDR is responsible for the useless deaths of American servicemen in Iwo Jima, Okinawa and other places.