Gorsuch Gave Half of Oklahoma Away

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Honestly, what the hell is wrong with this guy? He was supposed to be a die-hard conservative Supreme Court Justice and he’s basically a bitchy liberal that hates America.

What went wrong?

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large chunk of eastern Oklahoma remains an American Indian reservation, a decision that state and federal officials have warned could throw Oklahoma into chaos. President Trump’s pick Neil Gorsuch joined with the court’s more liberal members in the decision.

The court’s 5-4 decision, written by Justice Neil Gorsuch, means that Oklahoma prosecutors lack the authority to pursue criminal cases against American Indian defendants in parts of Oklahoma that include most of Tulsa, the second-largest city.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/supreme-court-hands-oklahoma-a-loss-on-tribal-lands-fight/article_4c33fbe8-c1ed-11ea-8c16-2705dc65414a.html

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The laughable “Supreme Court” blatantly violated the Constitution.

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State."

What was the point of this ruling anyway? The land was already given away in a treaty.

Gorsuch is a textualist rather than a political activist so this decision is actually pretty consistent.

Much of Eastern OK was literally stolen in violation of treaties that were never repealed.

This will all take decades to sort out.

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Prior to statehood OK was, “The Indian Territories”. The Indians always “owned” and the federal gov’t signed multiple treaties protecting their interest in perpetuity and then promptly violated every one of them.

One way or another they deserve to be compensated for the stolen land and those who have for generations now owned the land legally should not be punished or suffer any loss either because they were acting within the law.

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This is not really going to be a big deal. Home owners who have houses on the land will not be forced out, but lease the land (such as a tax). Much what the Seneca’s do to cities like Olean, N.Y. which is also on Native land.

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Well it could be a really big deal as far as law enforcement and the courts go.

If it’s all reservation land then the only police with any jurisidiction are the Indian tribal cops and the FBI.

Civil litigation could be an absolute nightmare.

Somehow congress and the tribes need to get together and settle it once and for all.

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The best model are previous ones with similar set-ups that have proven to work. IMO this all a big over reaction.

It doesnt’ have to be a big problem but if the tribes choose to make it one they can.

Congress should have settled this over a hundred years ago.

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This was probably not an especially good decision.

Nonetheless, I do have serious trouble with viewing SCOTUS decisions (or even its members) along “liberal versus conservative” lines. Rather, I view them along strict construction and originalist lines versus “Living Constitution” lines. (And I much prefer the former.)

Can we give Manhattan back to the Lenape Indians? After all Lenape Lives Matter!

Here is a brief history of what going on with the Native Americans

"The Lenape and Susquehannocks fought a war in the middle of the 17th century that left the Delaware a tributary state even as the Susquehannocks had defeated the Province of Maryland between 1642-50s

17th Century: New Amsterdam was founded in 1624 by the Dutch in what would later become New York City. Dutch settlers also founded a colony at present-day Lewes, Delaware on June 3, 1631 and named it Zwaanendael (Swan Valley). The colony had a short life, as in 1632 a local band of Lenape killed the 32 Dutch settlers after a misunderstanding escalated over Lenape defacement of the insignia of the Dutch West India Company. In 1634, the Iroquoian-speaking Susquehannock went to war with the Lenape over access to trade with the Dutch at New Amsterdam. They defeated the Lenape, and some scholars believe that the Lenape may have become tributaries to the Susquehannock. After the warfare, the Lenape referred to the Susquehannock as “uncles.” The Iroquois added the Lenape to the Covenant Chain in 1676; the Lenape were tributary to the Five Nations (later Six) until 1753, shortly before the outbreak of the French and Indian War (a part of the Seven Years’ War in Europe)."

No one was particularly innocent

The founding fathers were inspired by the Iroquois confederation created by Hiawatha and Deganawida

The REAL Hiawatha. (not the fictional poem)

The Lenape Chief said just last week, “If white manhattan bought our island many moons ago, we could’ve had a nice hunting club today!”

With the cops being forced to be social workers the Island is a hunting club today. I sometimes wonder what George Washington would think of pantie waste Bill Deblasio.