Simon says…dont.support.the.bill.
Nope, I’m not playing… even if it means you kick me out of the conservative club. I DO support this bill. Those of us that have roles in the acquisition of contracts with the US federal government have been supporting such policies for … years and years. It does not stop anyone from talking bad about Israel or having similar thoughts.
So you think it’s appropriate for Americans to be thrown in prison for criticizing or boycotting Israel?
“The bill prohibits U.S. persons from… supporting any boycott fostered or imposed by an international organization, or requesting imposition of any such boycott, against Israel.”
Oh good… at least you haven’t gone so far down the road yet that you are inclined to support thought control.
Did they forget about the 1st Amendment? Oh wait! Of course they did!
There have long been laws governing interstate and foreign commerce. This is but one of them. Read the bill… not some wacko’s description of the bill.
I have read the bill. It was crafted by AIPAC and they have been pushing for this since BDS got traction.
The end result is that it will violate the 1st Amendment rights of American citizens and businesses. Full stop.
Great… you read the bill.
Now quote the parts of the bill that violate the first amendment. The bill is here.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1697/text
You put quotes around something. Is that the bill you are quoting?
SEC. 5. POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES RELATING TO BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL UNDER EXPORT-IMPORT BANK ACT OF 1945.
Section 2(b)(1)(B) of the Export-Import Bank Act of 1945 (12 U.S.C. 635(b)(1)(B)) is amended in the sixth sentence by inserting after “child labor),” the following: “or opposing policies and actions that are politically motivated and are intended to penalize or otherwise limit commercial relations specifically with citizens or residents of Israel, entities organized under the laws of Israel, or the Government of Israel,”.
“(j) Violations Of Section 8(a).—Whoever knowingly violates or conspires to or attempts to violate any provision of section 8(a) or any regulation, order, or license issued thereunder shall be fined in accordance with section 206 of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1705).”.
(3) POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.—The term “politically motivated” means actions to impede or constrain commerce with Israel that are intended to coerce political action from or impose policy positions on Israel.
Yes…I linked the entire bill. What part of your post violates the 1st Amendment?
Did you read it? Did you also read the companion bill HR 1697?
I’ll piece it together for you: Whoever knowingly violates or conspires to or attempts to [support] opposing policies and actions that are politically motivated and are intended to penalize or otherwise limit commercial relations specifically with citizens or residents of Israel, entities organized under the laws of Israel, or the Government of Israel shall be fined in accordance with section 206 of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
They are literally trying to pass laws that punish US citizens and protect the citizens, businesses, and government of a foreign country.
I do not find the quote you purported to post. I find this
Whoever knowingly violates or conspires to or attempts to violate any provision of section 8(a) or any regulation, order, or license issued thereunder shall be fined in accordance with section 206 of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1705).”.
Read the summary of the link that you posted. Click the summary tab.
The bill prohibits any U.S. person engaged interstate or foreign commerce from supporting:
- any request by a foreign country to impose any boycott against a country that is friendly to the United States and that is not itself the object of any form of boycott pursuant to United States law or regulation, or
- any boycott fostered or imposed by any international governmental organization against Israel or any request by any international governmental organization to impose such a boycott.
The bill amends the Export-Import Bank Act of 1945 to include as a reason for the Export-Import Bank to deny credit applications for the export of goods and services between the United States and foreign countries, opposition to policies and actions that are politically motivated and are intended to penalize or otherwise limit commercial relations specifically with citizens or residents of Israel, entities organized under the laws of Israel, or the government of Israel.
You posted the broken-up body of the bill which is in legalese to show the mechanics of the language being added to existing US Code.
@Tyfoon - assembled the pieces and parts to construct the parts of the EXACT language in the link that you posted to create a coherent paragraph.
You should read the summary of your link.
Did I mention… there has long been laws that govern interstate and international commerce?
Stop deflecting. Show where the majority of us are wrong - or are misunderstanding plainly written language that carries penalties for US citizens. That part is on you.
He reconstructed it in such a way to support his position. The bills are constructed so as to be unambiguous… not to confuse.
Nonsense - that is the exact language of the bill as posted by you. If you don’t understand how these things are written that is on you.
Have you read the summary yet?