Alabama governor signs near-total abortion ban

That is their intent.

While there is definitely truth in saying that women frequently are responsible for getting themselves in the position where they are likely to become victims that doesn’t mean they are “getting what they deserved”.

They don’t deserve to be raped under any set of circumstances but the “do whatever you want damn the consequences” mentality has resulted in countless rapes that never would have or could have occurred otherwise.

It’s just like driving. If you drive recklessly or drink and drive your odds of something bad happening go up exponentially.

If you are a woman, and you drink heavily or get high otherwise at parties, clubs, etc you have just put yourself at high risk by doing so.

If you are sitting at home, cold sober, or asleep in your bed your odds of being assaulted are extremely low.

With each thing a woman does that puts her at higher risk her risk of being raped goes up exponentially.

Most rapes start with a woman either being out late at night alone in bad neighborhoods or with intoxication or both. Eliminate the risk factors and a woman can all but eliminate the potential for being raped.

Even speaking the facts as laid out above however can get you labeled as a “rape apologist” or “rapist enabler” etc today in a world where women can never be held responsible for their own behavior and where men are always to blame for everything bad that happens.

I would argue that their narrative is being rejected.

It is by us but not by democrats, at least not that I can see. This is mainstream thinking or democrats today.

Umm…correct me if I am wrong:

Doesn’t most rape occur with someone they are quite familiar with - such as a family member or relative? From what I hear and read, “Most rape happens in the home or familiar setting”.

Acquaintance rapes occur most often when the woman is either drunk or high.

Or even drugged by their acquaintance(s).

That would be very rare without the woman already being compromised by drugs or alcohol of her own choosing but yes it does happen on occasion.

Even at the height of the “Rufies” craze it was most often single women out dancing or drinking that were targeted.

I don’t blame the victims of rape ever but there are ways to reduce their odds of being raped to near zero if they aren’t out alone at night in high risk areas, drinking, or doing drugs.

Any combination of the above drives up the odds exponentially.

It’s not about blame, it’s simply about taking control of your own life and limiting your risk exposure to the greatest extent possible while still enjoying life.

Even if they are kidnapped and sent somewhere else?

It’s rare but not uncommon.

Especially, when it comes to kids. They are the vulnerable ones.

http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

It is not “rare” to be raped without being first compromised by drugs or alcohol. What the heck are you talking about here, TWR?

It is both rare and by definition uncommon. We have a population of over 320,000,000 people in the US. Roughly half or 160,000,000 Females, and roughly half of them or 80,000,000 females between 13-30 year old.

How many of them end up being kidnapped and being used as sex slaves every year?

The vast majority of rapes occur to women who have first been compromised with drugs or alcohol.

Take a look here. Studies show that over 50% of rape victims admit to having been voluntarily under the influence of alcohol when they were raped. Even more were using illicit drugs either alone or along with alcohol.

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh25-1/43-51.htm

Use of Intoxicating substances simply and provably greatly increase the risk of being raped.

Over 50% does not make it “rare”, TWR.

I get that we rely on facts and statistics and I appreciate that this is all we really can rely on in a discussion such as this.

However, I would like to add that these statistics are based on reported incidents.

Many women don’t report rape.

You seem to be misreading me somehow. When you examine rapes, it is very common by definition to find the victims were compromised by alcohol or drugs, and then so too by definition it is rare to find that the victim was not compromised by either or both.

Women are not responsible for being raped, but most often the victim has put themselves at higher risk of being raped due to their own behavior.

That does’t make them responsible for being raped but is certainly shows us that women can do a lot of very simple, easy, common sense things to reduce their risk of being raped.

We can only go with known facts. Even in cases where women have been interviewed who never reported their rapes to police we see the same patterns of risk factors being involved when they tell their stories.

I do believe I am misreading you. Complete benefit of the doubt extended to you, my friend.

However, I do not believe it is “rare” for rape to occur absent alcohol or drugs.

I get what you are saying.

To answer that question, I have to say…some are unreported by various reasons.

" The U.S. Department of Health & Human Services estimated that between 240,000 and 325,000 children are at risk for sexual exploitation each year. Children who are considered runaways are at particular risk of prostitution or of being trafficked into the sex industry."

https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/2018/findings/country-studies/united-states/

Underage kids that end up in the sex industry don’t count as rape victims statistically because it is consensual sex for profit.

Yes if an offender is caught they can be prosecuted but only for “statutory rape” which is counted as a different offense.

I believe in most states unless the victim is a pre teen the only charges that can be filed in most states will be under the “statutory rape” laws rather than what we’re talking about which are cases of rape against adult women.

When you drill down on it about 75-80% of rape victims were already compromised by alcohol, drugs, or both.

That makes completely sober rape victims statistically rare.

A ban on abortion is long overdue.