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In New York, misdemeanors must be prosecuted within two years of the date of the offense. Felonies like those Bragg has alleged must be prosecuted within five years or be forever barred by the statute of limitations. These are not new, complex, or difficult-to-manage rules and deadlines. Team Bragg is aware.

The D.A. has charged Trump with felonies for a variety of reasons, one of which is to trigger the five- rather than two-year limitations period on bad bookkeeping crimes. Felonies often bring jail time, which is the left’s fever dream for Trump.

Statutes of limitations are firm dates. There is little leeway for a prosecutor to ask a judge to set aside the statute to allow a time-barred charge to still proceed to trial. Putative criminal defendants have a right to rely on the passage of time as a complete defense to potential charges. Prosecutors must work in a timely fashion and are perpetually on the clock. That does not change simply because their target is an important person.

Bragg is largely also stuck with the formal findings of other courts regarding when certain events occurred on which he premises his charges. Everyone but Bragg, including his predecessor as Manhattan D.A., federal prosecutors, and the Federal Election Commission, had years to charge Trump with crimes within various statutory limitations periods and decided not to do so. Federal prosecutors did, however, charge candidate Trump’s former lawyer, Michael Cohen, with crimes related to the same “hush money,” and he went to prison. That was a document-intensive process, and the official papers filed in that case do not help Bragg’s case against Trump.

According to Cohen’s filed-in-federal-court sentencing memorandum, the Trump Organization “falsely accounted for these (hush money) payments as ‘legal expenses’” sometime in 2017. Thus, the D.A. had to bring any misdemeanor charge related to that transaction in 2019 and any felony charge in 2022 to survive a defense motion to dismiss. Bragg’s grand jury handed up charges in 2023 after the five-year limitations period expired.

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All of this seems rather rehearsed as if this is meant to happen. A crucifixion on a alter of contrived optics where a public awaits with baited breath only to be in silence once again. This all seems too surreal to believe any of it is true.

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First, all of the charges are related to the $130,000 that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen paid porn star Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 presidential election to keep her story about a 2006 affair with Trump out of the press. The case hinges on viewing that payment as an illegal campaign contribution—a questionable propositionthat Cohen accepted in a 2018 plea agreement only when confronted by charges that could have sent him to prison for decades instead of the three-year sentence he ultimately received. And although Cohen said he paid Daniels at Trump’s behest, which under the Justice Department’s theory implicated Trump in soliciting an excessive campaign contribution, federal prosecutors never pursued that charge, even after Trump left office.

Second, Bragg alleges that Trump, who reimbursed Cohen for the hush money with a series of checks he wrote in 2017, violated a New York law by falsifying business records to disguise those payments as compensation for legal services. As the indictment describes it, Trump did that not once but 34 times—once for each invoice, check, and ledger entry related to the reimbursement. That multiplication of charges counterintuitively treats Trump’s misrepresentation as nearly three dozen distinct crimes.

Third, while those offenses ordinarily would be misdemeanors, the indictment charges all of them as felonies because they were allegedly aimed at concealing or committing “another crime.” But neither the indictment nor the “statement of facts” that accompanied it says what that crime was. Bragg also has been vague on that crucial point, probably because there are potential legal problems with every possibility.

Given these weaknesses, it seems likely that formerly undecided people who began voicing support for the case against Trump after the indictment was unsealed were more impressed by headlines about 34 felonies than the information about the conduct underlying those charges. A CNN/SRSS poll conducted before the indictment was unsealed suggests a similar disconnect: While 60 percent of respondents said they approved of “the decision to indict Trump,” just 37 percent thought “Trump’s actions regarding payments to Stormy Daniels” were “illegal.” If “Trump’s actions regarding payments to Stormy Daniels” were not illegal, Bragg has no case.

As Reason’s J.D. Tuccille noted last week, the CNN/SRSS poll results present another puzzle: Seventy-six percent of the respondents said “politics played a role” in the indictment, including 52 percent who said it “played a major role.” That suggests a substantial number of respondents were untroubled by a political motivation for prosecuting Trump, even though that would be contrary to the rule of law and Bragg’s own description of his motivation.

In the more recent ABC/Ipsos survey, 50 percent of respondents said “the charges against Donald Trump in this case” were “politically motivated,” while 36 percent said they weren’t and 13 percent were not sure. If only 36 percent rejected the idea that the case is politically motivated, how could 50 percent think the prosecution is justified?

Again, these results suggest that antipathy toward Trump is coloring some Americans’ views of the New York case. By the same token, reflexive support for Trump presumably helps account for the 20 percent of respondents who thought he “did not do anything wrong,” even unintentionally.

Assessing the merits of Bragg’s case against Trump, of course, requires setting aside one’s personal feelings about the defendant, along with one’s opinion of his potential criminal culpability for actions that are not at issue in this case. Bragg claims to have arrived at that sort of dispassionate conclusion. But his reliance on debatable facts and untested legal theories belies that self-portrayal. So does Bragg’s decision to belatedly bring state charges that his predecessor rejected after mulling them for years, based on a federal charge against Trump that the Justice Department likewise declined to pursue.

All of that looks especially bad given that the defendant is the leading candidate to oppose an incumbent who is a member of Bragg’s party in the next presidential election.

Seems contrived to me when a case based on superfluous premise becomes politically motivated then making a mockery of law becomes the true victim as it serves no one in the end of it.

This entire episode does seem rather weird to me too. The only thing I can remember was when Kenneth Star went after Bil Clinton for lying under oath, and the entire Monica Lewenski Scandal, but this is not something that has ever happened in most people’s lifetimes and maybe why it seems so strange to people observing from afar.

Now to hide information:

Manhattan DA sues GOP Rep. Jim Jordan for launching an ‘unprecedentedly brazen and unconstitutional’ attack on Trump prosecution

Sonam Sheth

Apr 11, 2023, 12:59 PM

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg filed a lawsuit Tuesday against Republican Rep. Jim Jordan, the House Judiciary Committee, and a special prosecutor who previously worked for Bragg’s office.

In the 50-page lawsuit, Bragg accused Jordan of launching an “unprecedentedly brazen and unconstitutional attack” on the DA’s office while it’s in the middle of an ongoing investigation and criminal prosecution against former President Donald Trump.

Bragg is seeking to block GOP subpoenas related to his investigation, as well as a subpoena to a former prosecutor, Mark Pomerantz, who resigned last year following Bragg’s decision not to bring a separate criminal case against Trump over his business practices.

Tuesday’s lawsuit accused Jordan of carrying out a “transparent campaign to intimidate and attack District Attorney Bragg, making demands for confidential documents and testimony from the District Attorney himself as well as his current and former employees and officials.”

He was referring to a March 20 letter from Jordan and GOP Reps. James Comer and Bryan Steil — prominent Trump allies and the three chairmen of the powerful House Judiciary, Oversight, and Administration committees, respectively — for documents and testimony from the Manhattan DA. Their letter called Bragg’s investigation “an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial authority.”

“In light of the serious consequences of your actions, we expect that you will testify about what plainly appears to be a politically motivated prosecutorial decision,” the lawmakers said in the letter.

Insider reached out to spokespeople for Jordan and Pomerantz for comment.

“Chairman Jordan’s subpoena is an unconstitutional attempt to undermine an ongoing New York felony criminal prosecution and investigation,” the DA’s office said in a statement. “As our complaint details, this is an unprecedented, illegitimate interference by Congress that lacks any legal merit and defies basic principles of federalism. The Manhattan D.A.'s Office focuses on the law and the evidence, not political gamesmanship or threats. We look forward to presenting our case in court to enjoin enforcement of the subpoena.”

The DA argued in Tuesday’s lawsuit that Congress does not have the power to infringe on state criminal prosecutions. “Nor does Congress have the power to serve subpoenas ‘for the personal aggrandizement of the investigators or to punish those investigated,’” the suit said.

So they have a staring contest. Who blinks first?:face_holding_back_tears:

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America is losing in many fronts now, as Nations once loyal to America finds love in the arms of another. Trump is right

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It may be too late for saving America, its a nation in decay! People who think voting is going to save it are delusional. Like the pathological liar and loser Jizzer, he is a prime candidate for the FEMA camp!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Fascinating interview.

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The indictment of former President Donald Trump has captured political headlines and could also have a large impact on the 2024 presidential election.

Here’s the latest results of a poll that show how the indictment impacted the favorable rating of the former president and how the public feels about the charges.

What Happened: Trump was recently indicted by a federal grand jury in relation to criminal charges related to hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels.

The indictment and arrest of Trump came over a year and a half before the 2024 election, which Trump already announced his campaign for.

A new poll from ABC showed the indictment may have hurt Trump’s favorability among Americans and many believe he should be charged and potentially drop out of the presidential race.

The favorable rating for Trump in the new poll conducted April 6 and 7 after the indictment was announced came in at 25%. This is down four points from the same poll in the prior week and down from a favorable rating of 35% in October.

Trump’s unfavorable rating in the poll was 61% with 12% having no opinion, as reported by the New York Post.

Who else is going to replace Trump? DeSantis is already soured by many, and the rest of the field is made up of Neo-Cons. For many its Trump or bust!

I expect riots to return soon!

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Few people want to run for the presidency. Why would they as they would have to deal with the hate filled left and he biased media.

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We are in a terrible mess. Besides that, does anyone actually believe their vote counts any more when elections are rigged with electronic voting machines?

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Well in the last 2 election it was proven votes do not count.

Joseph Stalin

“It’s not the people who vote that count, it’s the people who count the votes.”