I’m surprised he hasn’t suffered whiplash.
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Obama removed it from the 2010 census so that the country would not have a clue how many illegals we had living here in 2012, 16, or 20.
Then what’s all the “dropped after the 1950 census” about?
I have no idea.
It was long the Long form until the 2010 Census.
Holder begins his argument by noting that “U.S. households have not been asked about citizenship on the main census questionnaire since 1950.” [Emphasis mine] This is deceptive. Holder omits that some one in six households received a question on citizenship through the “long-form census” as recently as 2000, i.e., when the last census was produced prior to the Obama tenure. The citizenship question was found in long-form censuses from 1970 to 2000. Citizenship questions have appeared in the U.S. census dating back to 1820.
The whole rowel seems to be over putting it back on the short form.
Of course it is, do you have one???
Anyway, it seems much the moot point as Trump has accepted what Wilbur Ross told him a year or so ago about other means of ascertaining citizenship status.
After brazenly declaring on Twitter last week that his administration was “absolutely moving forward” with adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census—much to the surprise of his own Justice Department’s lawyers—President Donald Trump has officially backed down from his census fight. The president announced Thursday that the White House is dropping its efforts to add the citizenship question to the census, which critics fear would have led to an undercount of approximately 6.5 million people and potentially affected congressional redistricting and federal fund allocation, likely to Democrats’ detriment. Instead, Trump issued an executive order asking government agencies to provide citizenship data that’s been gathered through other means.
I don’t need a source. I didn’t make a claim to be supported; you did.
Trump is still going to get his way. The Census is not the only mechanism to obtain that information. The president for the government having both the legal authority and the Constitutional impetus to know who is here legally or not goes back at least 200 years. The question you should really be asking is why do some people think that the Government does not have this right.
I don’t have to support an opinion or assertion. I did however tell you already how I concluded what I did, and unless you can demonstrate a different reason why the citizenship question was removed, that’s what I’ll maintain. But again, it’s now moot, as we’ll have no citizenship question on the 2020 census.
No, he’s not getting his way. Nobody ever cared if he had the information, there’s always been other avenues to getting it. He just wasn’t going to be allowed to add his citizenship question to the census thereby stifilling participation. Now there is no concern of that…
You do if you expect anyone to take you seriously. If you can’t source supporting facts your assertions and opinions are worthless.
Yes, you pulled it out of your ass. But regardless, the question will be asked, just not on the Census form. The question needs to be asked. It is the only way apportionment of Representatives can be accomplished fairly and in conformance wth the Constitution.
And again, all I did was ask a question, I did not clam to know anything about why the citizenship question was removed. That is entirely on you.
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If you care about the Constitution and the fair and proper distribution of representation among the States, then you care about the government obtaining the information that asking the question can provide. As has been discussed, the people who might be deterred from participation in the Census are precisely the same people who should not be counted for the apportionment of representatives. Not counting them causes no harm. How many times do you need to be told that before you understand why a Census is required under the Constitution?
Which is all that ever mattered to those who didn’t want there to be compromised participation. Big win for that, and good that Trump caved on it…
We want all peoples residing in the United States to be counted on the census, it’s simple. Trump’s insistence that the question be asked was demonstrably going to compromise that, so his acquiescence is a positive.
And I still maintain that it was removed due to anticipated diminished participation. Prove that wrong if you will.
The only people who would refuse to answer are those who are not entitled to any representation in congress.
Well there you have it, and they’re not going to answer no and red flag themselves. Besides, the constitution doesn’t say citizens in A1S2, it says persons. And only Indians were excluded because they do not pay taxes, whereas undocumented residents do pay taxes.
The constitution doesn’t tell us that non citizens and those here illegally are entitled to representation in congress.
It also doesn’t say non citizens aren’t among those to be counted.
The whole point of the census as laid out in the constitution is an enumeration to determine representation in the house.
Define paying taxes! Every one pays sales taxes, but filing federal taxes is the difference between legal and illegal persons in the United States! So your so called argument is not only predicated on false pretense it’s just a dishonest equivalency on your part! Then again trying to push forth such narratives is not surprising on your part, as your clown car is gassed up regularly here!