SCOTUS keeps citizenship question on hold in census case

[Samm]

@montecresto1

@Samm

Exactly. That just goes to demonstrate that the economic and political problems of other countries should not be our problem

That dismisses better than a century of US interference and exploitation, support of dictatorships and bringing in our marines to protect the interests of United Fruit and others at the expense of the local citizenry.

Political asylum for those who qualify is not affected by the current hard-line policy on illegal immigration.

[TWR]

You should know better to interject facts to counter an entirely partisan/emotional rant.

[Samm]

@montecresto1

The Census Bureau itself has stated that the question will result in diminished participation.

… of all the right people. Besides, as I have said several times before, the CB has mechanisms that they use to estimate the number of people who chose (for any reason) to not respond to the census. Every census … even those since 1950 … have segments of the population who’s number are estimated, not counted.

[TWR]

There you go again with the facts… .

[Samm]

@montecresto1

@Samm

and because it does not address the real issue, that the Census is required by the Constitution so as to fairly apportion representation in Congress among the States based on the number of legal residents in each State.

Good lord dude, that wasn’t the objective of the study. The study was commissioned to ascertain the effects on non citizen residents, that’s it. And the conclusion is that more than 6 million will not participate, many of whom are contributors in federal, state and local taxes. In fact, 50-75% of them do according to the non partisan CBO.

Well, since you keep throwing it my face as the answer to my question, it appeared that you believed that was the objective. By the way, you still have not answered the question.

Contribution to Federal taxes is not a criteria for the census taken to appropriation of Representatives to Congress. In fact, there is no connection between the duties and responsibilities of the IRS and the Census Bureau. And paying taxes does not qualify you to vote.

[TWR]

It’s also a lie since the overwhelming majority of Illegals that do pay income taxes have a net negative tax liability and instead use it as a welfare program to get checks for their “refundable tax credits” as well as a complete refund for what they’ve paid over the year.

[montecresto1]

@Samm

I have no doubt that many people who are not here legally will not respond to the Census if the question is asked,

Thank you, that was always the POINT of the study. And the Census Bureau itself has concluded this as well.

[montecresto1]

@Samm

Political asylum for those who qualify is not affected by the current hard-line policy on illegal immigration.

Well, that’s not what I was claiming.

[montecresto1]

@Samm

Contribution to Federal taxes is not a criteria for the census taken to appropriation of Representatives to Congress.

And I never said that it was. I merely made the point, documented by the non partisan CBO, that undocumented citizens are paying their taxes…

[Dr_Manhattan]

Blah blah blah, which has nothing to do with this thread as usual!

[Dr_Manhattan]

Suck on this Crusty snow flake!

The Hill (thehill)

[montecresto1]

@Triangle

So you think Trump didn’t roll over again and take it like a bitch? If that’s your take, you’re wrong.

That’s pretty funny. Ever think that maybe he enjoys it?

[Dr_Manhattan]

Again talking out of your rectum ? Maybe you enjoy it more Crusty!

[Samm]

@montecresto1

@Samm

I have no doubt that many people who are not here legally will not respond to the Census if the question is asked,

Thank you, that was always the POINT of the study. And the Census Bureau itself has concluded this as well.

But that was not my question. I specifically asked why was the question removed after the 1950 census. You have yet to respond to that question. Concern that asking the question might cause the very people who don’t count for the reapportionment of Representatives, to not participate is not a logical reason to drop the question. Either not participating, or answering “not a legal resident” produces the same result … a correct enumeration of people legally residing in each State and thus, a correct apportioning of representation in Congress. Estimates of the number of nonparticipating residents can still be done (as is routinely done) for the purposes of Federal Aid and welfare.

[Samm]

@montecresto1

@Samm

Political asylum for those who qualify is not affected by the current hard-line policy on illegal immigration.

Well, that’s not what I was claiming.

What was your point then?

[Samm]

@montecresto1

@Samm

Contribution to Federal taxes is not a criteria for the census taken to appropriation of Representatives to Congress.

And I never said that it was. I merely made the point, documented by the non partisan CBO, that undocumented citizens are paying their taxes…

Then it is a red herring point. Whether undocumented workers (not citizens) pay taxes to the Federal Government or not has absolutely nothing to do with asking people about their citizenship status in the census.

[TWR]

His point is that the US is a horrible country and we’ve done horrible things around the world by promoting democracy and protecting US interests.

[TWR]

He won’t even acknolege or accept the fact that the vast majority of those illegals who actually are paying income taxes are only doing so to get it all back at the end of the year plus payments for refundable tax credits.

Those “studies” only look at how much is paid, not the net.

[AlexC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=97&v=KR3MkKglTO0

First 12 minutes of the video about the census.
" Possibly 22 million and up."

[Dr_Manhattan]

Well isn’t this just rich!

https://ntknetwork.com/obamas-census-bureau-asked-about-citizenship-in-yearly-survey/