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He went to UCLA and ended up in Westwood CA.

He was a con-man who made a ton of money and created a cult. I wouldn’t use him as a connection to ancient Native American wisdom or Shamanism.

No I never did. my experiences with such subject matters is real, and culturally connected.

A lot of people over the years, speak glowingly about him which can make me cringe. There were ex-followers back then who claimed he was as bad as Manson.

I knew a few of those too, although those times were more in casual hangout times while discussing deeper topics than anything serious.

Are you familiar with the real Hiawatha and Deganawida story? And their federation invention and it’s connection with the founding fathers? And the HGWells "League of Nations idea. I may have mentioned this before.

Shamanism was ultimately based in the experiential use of visionary plants.

I am familiar with this story. One thing to clarify, we don’t refer to the art of healing and spiritual meditation to “Shamanism”. The word “Shamanism” was finding its origins to healers from Russia and Siberia. Like Rasputin, but further.

I understand. The term has been overused.

Here I can’t resist posting this. I think it’s hilarious in a sad way

A mix of made up body movement and some Alexander Lowen (bio-energetics) and Oscar Ichazo (psycho calisthenics} and Chinese influence. Westwood Casteneda​:slightly_smiling_face:

https://youtu.be/hk9VlwH_yME

Have you traced the geographical spread of the spiritual practices of your Grandfather? and various tribal connections? and migrations? Like a timeline?

Of course their was the land-bridge. There was a Chinese landing on the west coast also

To some degree, but its much harder to do when its constantly evolving from tribe to tribe.

What conclusions about your tribal origins have you found?

Remember those Ruskies were chomping down Amanita Muscaria…as they Marched across the landbridges​:kissing:

Well, for me it was the Mongolians and Waring Han. Mostly Mongolians through our totems (Horses). I am of the Wolf Klan, but Horses dote our family marker so somewhere where horses roamed we can be found too.

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Have done your DNA with Ancestry? I would love to see that.

I have tremendous old books on tribal migration records packed away, haven’t looked at them in years. I was researching Hiawatha for a long time trying to understand the tribal connections and where they came from.

Mongol DNA is quite a subject these days…:wink:

This fellow has some new ideas.

He is sure the “White Indians of Nivaria” did a great deal of migration

No not really, I was born into it so never really questioned where I came from in that regard. On my mother side there are more questions than anything, but not my fathers.

Yeah I was merely figuratively speaking, Mongolia has more horses per human than any other place in the world. Present day in age, I identify more with them in terms of culture than Chinese. And yes they are very white, fair skinned.

Bingo…to the ancestral ties with Tien-tai Chi-I meditation…

There is also another migration theory

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The author of this story was Lew Wallace (author of Ben Hur and Governor of new Mexico, scholar and Civil war General)

The book was The Fair God. Included Cortez, Mayans and Native Americans from Northern hemispheres

It became a movie. A rarity

Getting your DNA done is essential!! It will probably blow your mind… Very cheap to do. Sometimes on sale at $69.99 takes about 6 weeks. You just buy it online at www.ancestry.com. They send you a little box. you spit in the little tube and as instruction say. Send it back in.

6 weeks later your mind will be blown.

I was wondering to ask you if you witnessed live the night Marlon Brando refused his Oscar?

Absolutely saw that yes. Why?

Do you remember what was going through your mind and what your feeling at the time? Was it surreal as it was happening?

I was mad but glad he did it. It was a total surreal moment.