Official Coronavirus Non-Political Thread: Facts and Updates ⛑

They lie almost as much as the doctors instructed to call everything a COVID death.

And not a link to prove your claims, does that mean you lie???

Of course he lies! He is a Social Marxist! Its in his DNA!

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People come here and post garbage and pretend it’s the truth, pathetic.

Well, particularly David, he is always talking about “dunking on Conservatives” or blaming Trump for everything as opposed to having rational discussions here without resorting to insulting people with his immature BS games.

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300k-400k Americans are getting infected with Corona every day now, assuming 10 infections for each positive case.

Infections are increasing, but Americans think everything is under control all they see on TV is the NY situation, and cases are declining in NY and NJ

But not in the rest of the country.

Its like those 2 good doctors from California said. The denominator is going to skyrocket and thats ok. Its the numerator thats concerning. And the mortality rate is also dropping as more people are infected and recover or never experience symptoms.

Also there’s a study out of South Korea that suggests you cannot be infected twice.

Bring on the herd immunity. Stay safe out there. Wash your hands.

What the hell happened? If the country was on lock-down, then how could it possibly spread this fast if people are not permitted to travel?

If roughly 300k Americans have been getting infected every day with COVID-19 for the past month, that’s 0.1% of the population every day.

At that rate, it’ll only take 1000 days before everybody has it.

But not everybody will get it, we only need (1-1/R0) to get herd immunity, so only about 70% of America needs to get it, so that’s only 700 days - a mere two years - assuming the data is reliable.

If “herd” immunity is possible, 70% of the population would have to be infected, and there would be around 2.2 million deaths based on a best case 1% death rate.

Just remember that herd immunity was never achieved for the smallpox virus. It took 200 years after Jenner discovered the smallpox vaccine to finally eradicate smallpox.

The tragedy of autism, whether pathological or socially acquired, is its insistence on strapping reality to the Procrustean bed of some simple metric, and a childlike faith in it’s purity.

A majority of vaccine skeptics plan to refuse a COVID-19 vaccine, a study suggests, and that could be a big problem

May 4, 2020 8.12am EDT

Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the NIAID, said that a vaccination could be available as early as January, 2021. [AP Photo/Alex Brandon/File]
The availability of a vaccine for the novel coronavirus will likely play a key role in determining when Americans can return to life as usual. Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, on April 30 announced that a vaccine could even be available by January 2021.

Whether a vaccine can end this pandemic successfully, however, depends on more than its effectiveness at providing immunity against the virus, or how quickly it can be produced in mass quantities. Americans also must choose to receive the vaccine.

According to some estimates, 50% to 70% of Americans would need to develop immunity to COVID-19 – either naturally, or via a vaccine – in order to thwart the spread of the virus. If these estimates are correct, that could mean that nearly twice as many Americans would need to elect to receive a COVID-19 vaccine than those who currently opt to be vaccinated against seasonal influenza. Just 37% of American adults did so in 2017-2018, even in the midst of a historically severe flu season.

Making matters more complicated is the possibility that people who hold skeptical views about vaccine safety – sometimes referred to as “anti-vaxxers” – will not opt to receive the coronavirus vaccine. According to some estimates, about one fifth to two fifths of Americans express reservations about vaccine safety. If most of these individuals forego receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, they could potentially jeopardize the recovery process.

One of us is a doctoral candidate, and the other is a professor, who both study vaccine resistance. We conducted a study, which is currently undergoing peer review, where we estimate the number of Americans who report being willing to receive a COVID-19 vaccine, once it becomes available. We also investigate the reasons some Americans might refuse the vaccine.

We found that about one fifth of Americans, and more than half of people who hold skeptical views toward vaccine safety, may be unwilling to pursue vaccination. Although most Americans do plan to get vaccinated, non-compliance rates may be high enough to pose a threat to collective immunity.

Is coronavirus changing minds about vaccine safety?

On the one hand, a pandemic may be encouraging anti-vaxxers to change their minds. One reason so many Americans doubt vaccine safety is due to complacency – the idea that, because high rates of vaccine compliance have kept us safe from diseases that once reached epidemic proportions in the U.S., segments of the population can hold anti-vaccine views without endangering public health.

Dr. Anthony Fauci explains research for a COVID-19 vaccine.

Consistent with this view, research finds that when people are concerned that once nearly eradicated diseases might re-emerge to reach epidemic levels, people are more likely to trust recommendations from public health experts. Additionally,cross-national survey research suggests that people who live in parts of the world where the threat of epidemics are more likely tend to hold more positive views toward vaccines than the rest of the world.

Studies based on in-depth interviews with parents further suggest that parents who chose not to vaccinate their children are often willing to accept treatments for children with life-threatening illnesses.

On the other hand, however, it could be the case that anti-vaxxers remain suspicious of a COVID-19 vaccine, when it becomes available. Prominent anti-vaccine websites have already begun circulating misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine – such as the idea that a vaccine has existed for years and has been kept from public consumption. Additionally, recent research suggests that anti-vaccine views are tied to deeply held psychological and moral aversions to inoculation, implying that attitudes may be difficult to change.

What do anti-vaxxers say now?

We set out to investigate this important question. In a demographically representative survey of 493 U.S. adults conducted on April 15, 2020, we investigated whether people who hold skeptical views toward vaccine safety plan to receive a vaccine against COVID-19.

Specifically, we asked respondents whether they would be willing to get vaccinated against COVID-19 once a vaccine becomes available. Nearly a quarter (23%) of respondents said that they would not.

Additionally, and consistent with the view that even a global pandemic may not persuade anti-vaxxers to get vaccinated, we find that 62% of people who are skeptical of vaccines said that they will forego COVID-19 vaccination.

To assess this, we measured vaccine skepticism by asking respondents three questions about whether they find vaccines to be safe, effective, and/or important – which is how vaccine skepticism is typically measured. Respondents indicated whether they thought each characteristic described vaccines “quite a bit,” “a moderate amount,” “a little bit,” or “not at all.” We then averaged the score across the three to create a scale of vaccine skepticism.

Nearly one-fifth (19%) of respondents were more vaccine skeptical than not. Among vaccine skeptics, 62% stated that they would not get vaccinated against COVID-19. By contrast, just 15% of those more supportive of vaccines than skeptical said that they would not get the COVID-19 vaccine.

We also asked respondents if they self-identified as anti-vaxxers, and nearly 16% said they did. For those that identified as anti-vaxxers, 44% said they would not vaccinate against COVID-19, compared to 19% of people who did not identify as anti-vaxxers.

A threat to collective immunity?

We believe that these findings, although preliminary, suggest that many people who hold anti-vaccine beliefs may jeopardize the effectiveness of a COVID-19 vaccine once it’s available, due to issues of non-compliance. Furthermore, it appears that anti-vaccine sentiment is at least as widespread as it was before the pandemic began.

We caution that a drawback of this study is that it doesn’t directly measure changes in vaccine sentiment over time. However, the levels of anti-vaccine sentiment found in this data are comparable to similar levels of anti-vaccine sentiment in the American public before the pandemic, according to previousstudies. Tracking public attitudes toward a COVID-19 vaccine can help public health agencies better understand who plans to receive the vaccine, and why some people might choose to refuse it.

Crazy nonsense, meaningless numbers. Nobody has a clue how many people are getting the flu. Tests are over 50% false positives. Why would anybody believe a single number coming from the so called professional liars.

This is pure insanity and batshit illegal!!!

Janet Mills (D), Governor of Maine, signs bill ending religious and personal exemptions for vaccinations:

Put it together folks. She’s been elected to test the waters. I can’t say this enough, these are the same people who brought you the AIDS epidemic, OK City bombing, the Beirut bombing, the Al Khobar bombing, 93 TC bombing, 911, and now this.

There are still many people who are still refusing to get tested. Because, they feel they don’t have it, so what’s the reason to get it?

I think, there should be some way to entice them to get tested. Like some ecentive, so they will get tested. Maybe, pay them to get tested? Or a $100 Amazon gift card for the first 100? I don’t know.

I already got tested. Twice. But I did it because, it was mandatory where I work - or you could lose your job if you didn’t get tested.

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I wonder if you can get fired from your job, if you refuse to get tested. Even if the company/employer are willing to pay for it.

Hell, if I didn’t have to pay for the test…why not?

I wonder if you are on health insurance through your job, they will cover through a third-party insurer?

I wouldn’t trust any numbers coming out of China.

Screw the LYING CHINESE GOVERNMENT!!!

“Coronavirus: World leaders pledge billions for vaccine fight”

Looks like Gates’ gamble is going to pay off then? ‘The devil looks after his own’?

Does that mean that you would do trust the numbers coming out of the US and UK?

That sounds like fascism to me - that a government can force you, with menaces, to undergo an unnecessary medical procedure against your will. Sounds like the next logical step could be it could force you to be chipped against your will?