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The Gospel of Philip

We know very little about early Christians.
What did they really believe?

It is extremely hard to say, given the disciples of Jesus often had disagreements with one another and “Christian” documents were written decades, even centuries after the death (disappearance) of Jesus.

Many traditional views on Jeusus, his disciples and teachings were turned upside down with the discoveries of the Dead Sea scrolls in Palestine and Nag Hamadi scrolls in upper Egypt, both discovered miraculously shortly after WWII, like someone planned them.

Who was Judas?
We know the traditional church teaching about him, but is it accurate? Was that what early Christians thought about him?

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Exactly. Satan’s world needs to collapse first.
Hopefully while Biden is still President.

You guys have food and cash for a few weeks?

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If the Church has to trot out an 88 year old woman with dementia to make a point about Jesus, it sounds very sad.

At the time of death, you’re prone to deception by all kinds of entities, good and evil, angels and demons who can shape-shift into anything.

Discernment will be most critical. It is the time of testing.

I didn’t post that as something the ‘church’ trotted out. I think you read too much into things sometimes. :wink:

Yes, I understand. It is nice she has not forgotten Jesus while she probably forgot about her children.

Whether we’re talking about Christianity. Buddism, Islam or whatever relition, discernment is always needed.

By the same token, we must not hastily board large space ships if they land somewhere in our cities and and their crew (whether they are tall or short, ugly or beautiful) claimed that they came to earth to save humanity. We may wind up on their dinner plates or being sold as slaves in a far away galaxy.

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A pastor transformed himself into a homeless person and went to the church where he was to be introduced as the new head pastor that morning. He walked around his soon-to-be church for 30 minutes while it was filling with people for service. Only 3 people said hello to him; most looked the other way. He asked people for change to buy food because he was hungry. No one gave him anything. He went into the sanctuary to sit down in front of the church and was told by the ushers that he would need to get up and go sit in the back of the church. He said hello to people as they walked in, but was greeted with cold stares and dirty looks from people looking down on him and judging him. He sat in the back of the church and listened to the church announcements for the week. He listened as new visitors were welcomed into the church that morning, but no one acknowledged that he was new. He watched people around him continue to look his way with stares that said you were not welcome here. Then the elders of the church went to the podium to make the announcement. They said they were excited to introduce the new pastor of the church to the congregation. “We would like to introduce you to our new pastor.” The congregation stood up and looked around, clapping with joy and anticipation. The homeless man sitting in the back stood up and started walking down the aisle. That’s when all the clapping stopped, and the church was silent. With all eyes on him, he walked up to the altar and reached for the microphone. He stood there for a moment and then recited, so elegantly, a verse from the Bible. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and invite you in, or did we need to clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ The King will reply, 'Truly, I tell you, whatever you did for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me.’” After he recited this, he introduced himself as their new pastor and told the congregation what he had experienced that morning. Many began to cry and bow their heads in shame. "Today I see a gathering of people here, but I do not see a church of Jesus. The world has enough people who look the other way. What the world needs is disciples of Jesus who can follow his teachings and live as he did. When will you decide to become disciples?” He then dismissed the service until the following Sunday, as his sermon had been given


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The Bible, the Old and New Testaments, has been messed with. Discernment is always needed.

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This is often referred to the “Great Commission”.

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I’m not sure if Jesus really said that. If he did, it would be recorded in all other early Christian documents, including the Nag Hammadi Library, discovered in 1945.

Was Judas really the archetypical villain he was made out to be?

Said what? Who is your question directed at?

Mathew 28:19

Pharisee Judaism was a missionary religion and Jesus condemned them for that.
My question is, did Jesus say elsewhere that you have to make desciples of all nations?

Yeah, it’s beneficial for the Church, but that doesn’t seem like a way of life for spiritual people (forcing their points of view on others).

The disciples were witnesses therefore would essentially be sinning if they were spreading lies into the world about what Jesus said! So yes Jesus did say that!

The Church? What Church? There was no Church back when Jesus was walking the Earth.

Exactly my point.
Why would Jesus want all nations to be his disciples?

If Jesus studied in northern India (and possibly in Tibet) in his youth, which I suspect he did, seeking external salvation as opposed to finding inner salvation (God inside you) sounds extremely contrary.

Jesus had a brother whose name was James, also born of Mary. Some Christians are surprised to hear that.

But facts are facts.

James had some disagreements with the apostles.

(While Jesus left Palestine for Rome, James remained in Palestine, guiding the Christians there)

You are conflating people as monoliths (Nations) in which means people as disciples not nations.

What proof that he did such a thing? The foot prints of Jesus is well documented in the Bible and nowhere is Tibet or India is mentioned.

External Salvation? Thats is not correct either so I am not sure where in your understanding that you interpret as such.

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