The Gospel of Philip
We know very little about early Christians.
What did they really believe?
It is extremely hard to say, given the disciples of Jesus often had disagreements with one another and “Christian” documents were written decades, even centuries after the death (disappearance) of Jesus.
Many traditional views on Jeusus, his disciples and teachings were turned upside down with the discoveries of the Dead Sea scrolls in Palestine and Nag Hamadi scrolls in upper Egypt, both discovered miraculously shortly after WWII, like someone planned them.
Who was Judas?
We know the traditional church teaching about him, but is it accurate? Was that what early Christians thought about him?
Exactly. Satan’s world needs to collapse first.
Hopefully while Biden is still President.
You guys have food and cash for a few weeks?
If the Church has to trot out an 88 year old woman with dementia to make a point about Jesus, it sounds very sad.
At the time of death, you’re prone to deception by all kinds of entities, good and evil, angels and demons who can shape-shift into anything.
Discernment will be most critical. It is the time of testing.
I didn’t post that as something the ‘church’ trotted out. I think you read too much into things sometimes.
Yes, I understand. It is nice she has not forgotten Jesus while she probably forgot about her children.
Whether we’re talking about Christianity. Buddism, Islam or whatever relition, discernment is always needed.
By the same token, we must not hastily board large space ships if they land somewhere in our cities and and their crew (whether they are tall or short, ugly or beautiful) claimed that they came to earth to save humanity. We may wind up on their dinner plates or being sold as slaves in a far away galaxy.
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The Bible, the Old and New Testaments, has been messed with. Discernment is always needed.
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This is often referred to the “Great Commission”.
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I’m not sure if Jesus really said that. If he did, it would be recorded in all other early Christian documents, including the Nag Hammadi Library, discovered in 1945.
Was Judas really the archetypical villain he was made out to be?
Said what? Who is your question directed at?
Mathew 28:19
Pharisee Judaism was a missionary religion and Jesus condemned them for that.
My question is, did Jesus say elsewhere that you have to make desciples of all nations?
Yeah, it’s beneficial for the Church, but that doesn’t seem like a way of life for spiritual people (forcing their points of view on others).
The disciples were witnesses therefore would essentially be sinning if they were spreading lies into the world about what Jesus said! So yes Jesus did say that!
The Church? What Church? There was no Church back when Jesus was walking the Earth.
Exactly my point.
Why would Jesus want all nations to be his disciples?
If Jesus studied in northern India (and possibly in Tibet) in his youth, which I suspect he did, seeking external salvation as opposed to finding inner salvation (God inside you) sounds extremely contrary.
Jesus had a brother whose name was James, also born of Mary. Some Christians are surprised to hear that.
But facts are facts.
James had some disagreements with the apostles.
(While Jesus left Palestine for Rome, James remained in Palestine, guiding the Christians there)
You are conflating people as monoliths (Nations) in which means people as disciples not nations.
What proof that he did such a thing? The foot prints of Jesus is well documented in the Bible and nowhere is Tibet or India is mentioned.
External Salvation? Thats is not correct either so I am not sure where in your understanding that you interpret as such.
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