The Rabbit Hole

Two short stories about diabetes:

My dad was diabetic for well over 50 years, back in the day when injections of insulin was all they had to keep the glucose levels down. He made all three of us children give him shots just in case we had to some day.

The skin on both upper arms, both upper thighs and across the middle of his stomach was like leather from being punctured some many times over the years.

He could tell whether he needed insulin or sugar and always carried his insulin injection kit and a roll of Lifesavers.

He went to see his doctor one afternoon, took a blood sugar test and the doctor said that the lab results showed his blood sugar was high. Dad said they were wrong…that his blood sugar was low. The doctor checked back with the lab and they discovered they had mixed my dad’s sample up with someone else’s. (Medical error)

Some years ago my doctor retired and I had to choose another. On my first visit for a physical, he took a blood sample, listened to my breathing and my heart, looked in my ears, in my throat, in my eyes…but said he doesn’t do the standard prostate exam, which most men will know requires a rubber glove, some lubricant and a finger on the prostate.

Now how the hell can he tell my prostate is not enlarged without feeling it or using an X-ray?

Then the lab report comes back on my blood test. He says I’ve got a level of 122 or so…called it pre-diabetic…and says he’s gonna put me on Metformin.

So I take the prescription, go buy a bottle of it, go home and read about diabetes, blood glucose levels expected at different times after eating, danger levels, side effects of Metformin, etc…until I convince myself that my new doctor is a pill pusher that made a decision based on one blood glucose reading when he had no idea what and when I had eaten recently.

Metformin is not a good drug to take.

So I wrote this doctor off my list (3 years ago) and never took the Metformin. I bought a blood glucose tester, I test my blood sugar level only after fasting and have yet to obtain readings in the “seek medical attention” range.

I’m still looking for a new GP.

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I am an expert in my field. I can parry a newbie question with fiction wound in fact and make it sound rock solid. That would be IF I were the type of person to do that. Which I am not.

I give people fact. I tell them not to take what I am saying at face value; I encourage them research it independently. Some do, some don’t.

People take oaths all of the time. Some people believe the taking of an oath means something.

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The cardiologist years ago tried to get my dad on warfarin, said it would be good for him, a blood thinner. I said we’ll think about it. I researched it and found out that a minor scratch and if you’re on warfarin you could just bleed out and die. That’s some bad medicine. A nurse told me her mother was on it. I said how is she and she said: “Oh, she died”. Doctor tried to push the pills again and I said no thanks so he gave us a real mild generic substitute. All good.
My dad had over 90% blockage of his one carotid artery and 70% blockage on the other causing him dizziness when he lifted his head up. The Kaiser Permanente big shot surgeon said my dad at 80 was too old. That doctor was a POS. We found another doctor outside the heath provider, a good doctor, he cleaned the artery out no problem. Dad lived to be 99. Passed away 4 months ago.
We’re all gonna go someday but with some guidance and prayer we might live a healthy long life.

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Yes but what about the flaws pointed out in that video ? Do we ignore it and say they probably have valid reason and we should still trust everything they have told us ?

The silly boy label tends to come from people who can ignore the obvious flaws because it is painful to their pride to think they may have fallen for some very elaborate hoaxes. Don’t fear being labeled as silly, we have an amazing sensory system and it keeps you safe. A lot of people suppress it with all kinds of crap, prescription drugs etc that’s bad enough but to let other people suppress it with the “Silly” label is just criminal and worse still is when governments and so called reliable sources do it.
Give your bullshit meter a tune up, real food and regular exercise. Just because someone has a PHD in anything doesn’t mean they present reality. If what they learned in the first instance wasn’t factual and just regurgitated crap it’s easy to see why there is always such reluctance to be open to more possibilities and easier to say everyone who doesn’t think what I say is fact , is stupid.

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A real propaganda piece. She chose not to take what’s on offer in terms of mainstream treatment and automatically it’s dangerous to trust information on the net.
It would be much more helpful to compile statistics on 1 & 5 year survival rates from both camps but it will likely never happen as there is no money to be made from someone deciding to take an independant path from the usual toxic cocktails on offer.
And of course the story would not be complete without the survivor from the conventional route, only diagnosed in 2017 ! (Hope she survives but perhaps a follow up in 5 years) The stats beyond 5 years aren’t great for many cancers.
Sad for that lady but that article has no respect for her wishes in wanting to try her own way regardless, what about personal choice, making own decisions and trying to force people down the orthodox route because everything else is quackery, it’s just wrong. I think they should also inform potential patients of who will profit from the toxic treatment, the split to the drug reps, distribution etc etc, be honest and make it known CANCER IS A BUSINESS.

MOP is that she may have fared better using the oldest catch all cure out there.

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My point was more so that there is no perfect or clear solution. I would not dismiss chemo nor would I dismiss anything else. Really, by the time you get a diagnosis, it is too late. With many cancers as well as illnesses, there are changes and symptoms that come years if not decades before and get ignored. For example a rise in RHR, even if it all within the normal range, would generally be ignored and that is even if it is noticed in the first place. With many cancers, there is a smell, a sort of sweet, sickly meaty smell. We get told many things are “normal” like period bloating and pain. It isn’t! There is an imbalance which in years to come would lead to something more serious, though people tend not to make the connection. Skin is probably the best indicator. It is the perfect window into your health.

As for me, I eat a good balanced diet, do a lot of exercise, never smoked and never have more than one glass of wine. Although I am in perfect health, I take curcumin, boswellia, grape seed extract OPC, vitamins D3 and K2 (mk7) derived from natto. Also B12 and B6 with zinc and magnesium, molecularly distilled omega 3, marine collagen (to look younger than I am, lol). I wear a Garmin watch that constantly monitors my HR. Average RHR is 51. My weight is constant and has been since I was 18. Prevention is far better than cure. :wink:

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Rather than focusing on blood glucose levels, how about insulin levels? Are you overweight? To lower your insulin levels, I am sure @StuFX can tell you all about it - low or no carbs and fasting!

Thank you for reminding me how much I have forgotten! :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t remember seeing anything abt testing on the moon until we put a man there - Plse post a link if I’m wrong

I do remember seeing the earth tests of the landing module and I seem to remember they were an absolute disaster.

So shouldn’t the astronauts be able to see stars on the moon? Fucked if I know.

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But we only needed a rocket, smaller than a man to get off the moon?

:+1:Agree on this point. My own personal preference is that in no way would I further compromise a struggling immune response with a toxic load from “The Cancer Specialists” but that is where choice should be respected regardless of how bizarre anyone else thinks it might be. I happen to have the opinion that the poor lady’s veganism is a major contributing factor in her demise but it’s her choice.

EDIT: Also lots of evidence emerging of it never being too late with advanced stage cancers being beaten well beyond the 5 year mark.

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I have
watched this clip so many times and it never looks any less awkward. A real cringe clip for the BS detector.

…which is that, Stu?

Sweetie … sleep with an eye-mask, look younger than your years for ever.
This I discovered accidentally due to my wife requiring open windows to sleep. I haven’t recently tried claiming to be in my late 40s, it may not wash, but I might try mid 50s. :wink:

Obviously they did not try a moon-based takeoff. However I am disputing your claim that the propellant and/or motor used in the lunar lift-off module was untested. The guy with his cock on the block would absolutely not allow an untested vehicle to be used.

The lunar orbiter complete with fuel weighed 15 tons (iirc). Additionally there was the thrust module which took the orbiter out of earth-orbit and towards the moon. So we are heading towards a Saturn-5 launch payload in excess of 30 tons. Apologies for inaccurate figures, CBA to dig through Wikipedia or wherever to get the actual numbers.

What do you call beaten? 5 years remission? That is what the NHS uses. But is it truly ever beaten? 10 years, decades? There is a much higher likelihood for it to return.

Good on you! In my opinion there is too much focus on actual age and not enough on state of health. After all, what is the point of being 30 and a mess when you may only last another 20 years and in poor health?

Is the eye mask to block out all light? I have blackout blinds and blackout curtains. Being 51 deg north, it is a pain! Yes, good sleep is a major factor in how you look and overall health.

I also use copper peptide and hyaluronic acid, rosehip oil and the Dermalogica range. All 100% original parts. :grin:

Using the body’s own in house repair team, (immune system) which is jacked when in a fasted state. Mainstream can’t ignore it anymore because of overwhelming amounts of evidence but what do they do with the info ? Not to be left out they say fasting can help alongside conventional treatment, of course it makes no sense to cut out the profitable side of that advice :money_mouth_face:

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Earlier this year I took a picture of a sun dog. I had no idea what it was until I was told. I don’t know how they form, but that day up at around 2800m, it was all very strange. We were above a thick layer of cloud filling the valley and the moisture in the air had crystallised, which made for lots and lots of sparkly glitter just hanging there.

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Yes that is what I was referring to NHS seem to quote 1 to 5 year survival rates a lot, I think it tumbles beyond the 5 year marker. I don’t think there is a register of survival rates in the non toxic category ? Seems to be lots of anecdotal evidence that falls on deaf ears. The good thing is there is plenty of info out there to make our own decisions but I’ve witnessed the “you are signing your own death warrant type talk” from the white coats, it’s disgusting. My sister’s son died of Leukemia in 1983 aged 7.5 , he was coping well on an absolute clean diet, not that he was fed on junk food but real attention to detail but the white coats kept pressuring my sister to have Chemo and Radio to be sure and not take chances, she went along with their advice. He was dead 2 months later, he went from being like a normal little boy to absolutely destroyed instantly, she regretted her decision almost instantly but it was too late. It still haunts her now.

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