The intelligence agencies want the electors to vote “freely” - they want the power to overturn a close election by targeting the electors.
We already have proof how horribly wrong the idea of the popular vote is and why the electoral college was instituted in the first place. Just look at states like California, Oregon, NY, and Michigan! Proof positive that liberal voters are more concentrated in Urban areas than in rural ones and thus voters residing in the rest of the state such as rural areas would never have a voice if the popular were to prevail.
Bingo!
Funny how we only hear a one sided argument on this issue as being about Republicans and not Democrats who also favor the electoral college? Surely the Bernieites can relate right? Only when they lose elections does the popular vote become the de-facto go to “its unfair” narrative.
Just as you were correct in pointing out, this is not a constitutional issue but a party issue that needs stricter guidelines to prevent the pay to play corruption that is rampant in both parties to better insure impartiality is being properly deliberated on a state level. This case is dead in the water and is going no where.
Hopefully it finally put an end to the popular vote game passed by 17 states.
The left has always insisted on the peaceful transfer of power as they did from the Bush to Obama administrations yet dropped any pretense of a peaceful transfer of power when Trump was elected. It continues as you know today.
I’m confused; you saying the EC never put a Democrat in the White House? Sorry, that’s only wrong if a Republican wins. What was I thinking?
You need to read a book Jim, that’s not what I said.
There have been five times in US history in which a presidential candidate lost the popular vote and yet won the election and all five times those winners were republicans (save JQ Adams who was a Whig and Whigs became the Republican Party) and I’m just pointing out that if it was democrats that kept loosing the popular vote but winning the presidency then the republicans would be raising hell about the unfairness of the system.
Which is pure speculative BS on your part! Truth is you have no idea what Republicans would do!
Q: Why does the U.S. have an Electoral College?
A: The framers of the Constitution didn’t trust direct democracy.
Because YOU have NOTHING to offer but more DEBT !!! Did you just “woke” from that 35 year sleep ?
Being a Republic, keeps Democracy in check.
Gerrymandering is not unknown to democrats as they gerrymandered out 6th district and combined it with a growing leftist city.
Not to mention the leftist states and cities who refuse to examine their own voter rolls. Dead people have rights too.
Once a lock tight red district is now blue.
Dont cry the blues to me.
The 10th Circuit Court ruling does not affect the National Popular Vote law.
This decision does nothing to stop a state from appointing electors who promise to vote for the winner of the national popular vote.
The Baca decision invalidates the removal of an elector but not the states’ ability to name electors, the National Popular Vote legislation would remain enforceable.
Electors under the National Popular Vote compact would loyally vote as rubberstamps as they do with the current system.
If the political parties do their job of vetting their nominees for the position of presidential electors, faithless electors cannot not have any effect on the outcome – under either the current system or the National Popular Vote compact.
The legislature and governor in Colorado passed and signed the National Popular vote law.
The people have revolted and collected enough signatures to invalidate the law in the November election.
Polls show 60% of the people in the state want the law invalidated.
Nothing can happen with the national popular vote law nationally until it’s actually put in place and used. May be the next election. At that point when the first state that awards the electoral votes to a candidate that doesn’t have the popular vote in that state will trigger lawsuits and a fast SCOTUS acceptance of the suit.
But the again the democrats will do anything to ensure they win the WH.
The framers ideas have been amended 27 times already and just ignored a bunch more.
So what are you saying?
Oh and the framers knew the Constitution would need to be amended which is why they wrote the process into the Constitution!
Right, they knew that it was not infallible, and that as the country grew and times changed, it would require amendment. What they didn’t plan for is a country so polarized that the processes couldn’t be followed. So we see on both sides people taking matters into their own hands.
The EC may not be perfect, but it’s the best we have so far. The Fathers “knew” pure democracy could not be trusted. SUCH INSIGHT; because “today” we cannot have a handful of states that are bulging with enough people, to elect by popular vote, someone who would simply cater to their wants, and allow less populated states to end up under their thumb. Until something that is proven better ( to all of America ) than the EC, surfaces, the EC should be considered sacrosanct.
Of course conservatives are on board with continuing the EC. Of the five times in American presidential election history that a candidate lost the popular vote but won the election, it’s been republicans (once a Whig, precursor to the GOP) but we can be sure that if the EC favored the Democratic Party instead, the conservatives would be calling for its abolition.
“Through the National Popular Vote compact, states pledge to award all their electoral support to the winner of the popular national tally. Fifteen states and Washington, D.C., have signed on to date, representing 196 of the 270 votes necessary to secure the presidency (and the threshold at which the agreement takes effect).“
If so, when you cut away the fat, this would be the result. A handful of states that are bulging with enough people, could elect by popular vote, someone who would simply cater to their wants, and allow less populated states to end up under their thumb. Things that may look good on paper often result in disaster.
If your an American voter, and you vote, your vote 100% counts toward the tally, regardless of your address. It’s not cancelled out by an unelected official somewhere.