Official Coronavirus Thread - The Next Airborne Misery - Open General ☣

This review you reference was written by James Demeo. I recommend you do some research on this “atmospheric scientist” and the orgone energy quackery that he has wasted his life researching and writing about.
Heres a link to his “research” page.
http://www.orgonelab.org/
And the products he sells:
http://www.orgonelab.org/cart/naturalenergy.htm
He also wrote a book denying that AIDS is caused by HIV, giving him even more credibility… :roll_eyes:

This particular paper has a ton of information including graphs, charts, manipulation of statistics, and conclusions, so it takes some time to really dig into the details.

Aside from obvious questions, like, “why was this paper not submitted to colleagues and other experts for peer review?”, some strange things quickly became apparent. There are a few places in the paper, including the first chart of information, where the referenceed hyperlinks do not work. No big deal, except when I did go to his source, I found out that he was misrepresenting or simply lying about the info. For instance, his all deaths from 2020 on his first chart, which he claims came from the cdc, is nowhere to be found. That’s because he made this number up, or at least arrived there by dubious methods which are similar to a previously published paper. There was a response to that other misleading “study” found here:

Another example is figure 3 on page 12 where he questions why the WHO pandemic guidelines changed in late 2019 that recommend no quarantining, no contact tracing, etc.
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His hyperlink reference doesn’t work here either. That’s because this was a bald-faced lie. These were the WHOs guidelines for an INFLUENZA pandemic or epidemic only, not any pandemic in general. Seen in this light, the guidelines make perfect sense.

The reason for not submitting this for any kind of peer review seems pretty obvious now.

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Skepticism is an integral part of the scientific method, or of any honest discussion for that matter. If anyone is the contrarian, it is you, with your fringe conspiracy beliefs.

What does this even mean? Yes, I have altruistic views. What exactly is this moral relativistic narrative you claim I hold?

Your selective reading comprehension skill puts you in the dumb/POS category.
If you’re dumb you neglected to read it. The post didn’t say reduce PCR testing. It said reduce the cycle count so that you will get less positive results.
By deliberately omitting that info though, like a shill would and claim another lie, you’re just another POS.

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That will certainly add to the brain damage of the people who submit to this, as conveniently it is where they seem to pluck their information from. :grin:

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Criticizing a post I made 5 days ago…
You are correct that I misquoted, but it was not a deliberate mistake. My point stands that you posting memes with no links to back them up is dubious at best and proves nothing. I, perhaps wrongly this time, assumed it was a load of bs like most of what you post.

I don’t converse with jellyfish. I don’t like to waste time.

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… just so long as they don’t want to stick it up your nose afterwards

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Please tell me that was a spoof Alex.
You really couldn’t make this shit up.

Don’t hold your breath Billy boy

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/anal-swab-china-coronavirus/2021/01/27/cc284f56-6054-11eb-a177-7765f29a9524_story.html

Yeah I know! Because you are superior in knowledge and more credentialed in data analysis than this guy! You can’t even perform a simple internet research to present a objective set of facts but you are going to discredit a guy who is respected in his field? Yeah OK. :rofl: :rofl:

It is easier discrediting a qualified respected scientist that does not support your warped confirmation bias of the Covid Hoax than to accept that you are simply wrong. Your contrarian arguments you make all the time while ignoring facts is the main reason why no one here should take you seriously. It’s the internet after all you can claim anything. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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If you can’t figure it out it’s not my job to educate you, but you do demonstrate perfectly my point so thanks!

I pointed out some major flaws in that paper, but instead of addressing them, you choose to attack and insult me.

Maybe you’re just mad I brought up Demeo’s crazy orgone energy stuff. I really think he may have been bitter about his hero Wilhelm Reich dying in prison in 1957. The fda got Reich for violating an injunction against international shipping of orgone accumulators. They burned all the dude’s publications too!

Which is an opinion and not based on the actual data presented! Like most of all the arguments you presented here on this site I stand by what I correctly identified as moral relativism, your just not honest enough with yourself to be objective in self evaluation to adjust your perceptions and to be open to other scientific inquiries, you are only interested in tearing them down and discrediting them.

What are your credentials? Let’s start there, shall we?

You can’t even understand your own logic! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

All the other crap that you are inserting here which has nothing to do with the subject matter on hand is your attempt at levity to justify to your flawed perceptions and interpretations as being superior to anyone else’s. You sure do love that echo chamber you live in huh? Which begs the question: Why are you here? I mean this is mostly a conservative site, and I am seriously wondering why come here if for no other reason is to continuously post superfluous arguments to satisfy your own confirmation biases for self serving purposes. It’s not like you are smart enough to put forth intellectually honest points that is going to be mutually beneficial to anyone interacting with you. Maybe Reddit is more your thing?

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The guy literally lied about his references. That’s not an opinion, but I’ve gotten used to you diverting from the topic to attack me.

Im here because of the wonderful people. You’d never admit it, but I think you’ve grown quite fond of me

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Yeah OK. I am better off resolving to ignoring anything you say from this point forward. You are not only purposely obtuse in your responses but not intelligent enough to acknowledge facts when they are presented. I am pretty sure many here have made the same observations as well. BTW, you reveal quite a bit of who you are in that statement alone, so thanks for that.

Again proving once again you are simply disingenuous in your arguments. Its an opinion when you resort to attacking the messenger as opposed to the message itself and you simply couldn’t handle that. Its ironic that now all of a sudden you are claiming to be the victim when someone gives you an opinion of your very predictable behavior here. I digress! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Again, want proof? What are your credentials? You were asked this question but you purposely ignored that question.

So now you’re speaking for many others here too? They also see what a pleasant, reasonable person you are.

I post studies and you completely discredit them, but when you post one, it is suddenly beyond critique?

Here is a perfect example of your ignorance shining right through. Many of us on this same thread have a history and know each other. The fact that you managed to piss off one the most peaceful people here is saying something. Not all of us focuses on the artifact of language but the intent of language itself. There are actually smarter people than you on this thread, you just haven’t figured it out yet.