Impeachment: The Most Pragmatic & Politically Wise Path for Democrats. A Way Forward

[Leatherneck]

[supperhey]

yawn oh, its this thread again

The Big Question — When (and if) to Impeach

The various arguments for and against immediate impeachment may have congealed, but as new information comes to light, via Mueller and other routes, attitudes will shift as the picture of Trump’s crimes and unfitness becomes clearer. With so little case history on which to base opinions, we look at the two most recent, Nixon and Clinton. I think most would agree the facts are better compared to Nixon’s case. An important fact in both cases was that the impeaching party had controlling majoritie…

Is Now the Time To Start an Impeachment Process? Yes

I’ve been against seeing impeachment proceedings primarily because I had the belief that America might be torn asunder by the undertaking. After reading the covery article in the current The Atlantic I’m persuaded otherwise. The article posits five benefits of the process and presents them with compelling arguments. > In these five ways—shifting the public’s attention to the president’s debilities, tipping the balance of power away from him, skimming off the froth of conspiratorial thinking,…

Why is everyone misquoting Pelosi?

I mean, these were here actual words: ‘“I’m not for impeachment. This is news. I’m going to give you some news right now because I haven’t said this to any press person before,” Pelosi said. “But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.”’ To me, this is just a vari…

The anxiety of living in Trump’s America

I couldn’t find a thread on this specific topic, but it’s come up a lot in my personal political discussions. Full disclosure: I am a well-off, older white male native-born American, albeit a non-Christian, so I am certainly not in a maximally threatened category under this Administration. But we all know what it is like to live in Trump’s America. A close friend of mine made a brilliant comment early on that it was like suddenly getting an erratic and abusive step-parent. When my father hit hi…

Bernie or the Tiger

[Bernie-Sanders--800x450] So it’s obvious that the mainstream moderate part of the Democratic Party is desperate to run a mainstream moderate as their nominee. So here is what I say to them – if you want to run a moderate, you have to impeach Trump. A moderate Democrat like Biden can beat Pence in the general. He can’t beat Trump, though. To beat Trump, you need a nominee that will enflame the hard left, including every single 18 year old kid in America. You won’t get that with Biden. Now, o…

Lets me save you the time and trouble and summarize all these threads:

For the DNC to win in 2020, Drumpft must be impeached

[wiley8425]

Kind of sounds like it will never be fixed then.

[SixFoot]

It’s like watching a lame script play out.

[karpenter]

Democrats Think Trump Should Have Forfeited The Election
And Stepped Down The Day He Won The Election

His Impeachable Offense To Dem’s
Is Hillary Lost Against All Odds

About That Popular Vote Thing
Remember This ??

And This:

Democrats Are A Danger To Democracy
Don’t Try To Pretend
Democrats Don’t Want One Party Socialist Rule
They Are Authoritarian By Nature

[karpenter]

Hillary’s Defied Subpoenas Before

[LouMan]

Good, go for it.
What will be the end results?

1. The democrats will march lockstep to hell and back all in the name of the party, no thought required.

2. The senate will never convict as there is zip, nothing to convict Trump of.

3. The right will be totally alienated.

4. The independents will certainly dump everything left as they are currently disgusted with the progressive meatheads.

5. This will certainly fracture the country likely beyond repair.

But go for it.

We need 2 separate countries, one for the asylum seekers, illegals aliens, progressive idiots and democrats, the other country for the rest of the country.

Keep in mind, the rest of the country provides food, fuel and mist of the necessities of life for the rotting cities.

[LouMan]

New person, the same tripe or it could be the same person different name same bovine feces.

[SixFoot]

It’s our liberal horde. They’re too lazy to change up their typing patterns, and they all look like the same 4 lonely losers that followed us here in the first place.

[karpenter]

Looks Like Impeachment
Just Crashed And Burned On The Side Of The Road

lol @Mueller And Those Wacky Dems

[beadencup49]

I guess Schmobama using the IRS against conservative nonprofit organizations isn’t impeachable nor is letting the slaughter happen in Benghazi.
All the election crap happened while he was President. How could he not know the Steele Dossier wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on.
These Quasi Communists on the Left have a reason to justify their actions and minimize their guilt.

[asaratis]

The rules are always different for liberals. The descriptions of actions change when applied to liberals. The definitions of words change when applied to liberals. Treason is not treason if a liberal does it.

This is one reason they continuously accuse their opponents of what they are doing themselves. They can always spin the definitions when they’re called out for it.

The latest word of the day from the liberals concerning President Trump and the ongoing Mueller-report saga is unpatriotic. Nadler, Schiff and the rest of the Democrat Party bums used the word in reference to Trump in order to implant it in the minds of the useful idiots that share their hatred for the President. They are trying to paint him as an enemy of the people.

The truth is (as usual) that the Democrat Party is being unpatriotic in undermining our democratic republic and its constitution with their orchestrated and continual attempt to reverse the outcome of the 2016 election.

Remember what Hillary said about refusing to accept the results of the election? Undermining our government is definitely unpatriotic…and is exactly what the Democrat Party and the Fake News Media are doing.

The Democrats in Congress are also being unpatriotic in ignoring the needs of the country in doing absolutely NOTHING to produce legislative solutions to problems we have at the border, in infrastructure and other areas. They’re spending all of their effort (and a ton of money) chasing after the dream of deposing President Trump.

[karpenter]

Impeachment Has Sunk
They Need A New Angle

Like A New Platform
That Addresses Real Issues
And A New Line-Up Of More Serious Candidates

[beadencup49]

The House can vote to impeach President Trump but it’d be a waste of time for the Republicans hold a solid majority in rhe Senate. It would also be a bad election time decision for them. Go to it Dems!!!

[Texashusker]

What’s funny is Trump is controversial enough that if Dems fielded a non-crazy candidate with some good ideas, he/she would beat Trump soundly. As it is, this is looking like a landslide for Trump because the DNC clown car is full of crazy idiots.

[NotTacitus]

@khyber

impeachment provides the Dems with the best opportunity to put the GOP/Trump on the defensive, to win the Presidency and to win the US Senate.

Two names Bill, Clinton. Please do this Democrats; the GOP will own all three branches with a majority that will be filibuster proof!

[Rurudyne]

@NotTacitus

@khyber

impeachment provides the Dems with the best opportunity to put the GOP/Trump on the defensive, to win the Presidency and to win the US Senate.

Two names Bill, Clinton. Please do this Democrats; the GOP will own all three branches with a majority that will be filibuster proof!

…and then the NEXT Jim Jeffords, or a whole group of them, among the so-called moderates will, as statesmen (code for agreeing with Democrats) reach across the isle in the name of fairness and **** us all over … but at least the DNC would be neutered for a while.

[Texashusker]

Honestly, I’m not entirely sure of that. It seems like the lines are drawn and I’m not sure it moves that many people off of their opinion. I will say that I think there would be a bit of a backlash but I’m just not sure you could increase the excitement and turnout for Trump that significantly. People are already engaged and I think that bodes well for his 2020 campaign.

[AlexC]

[asaratis]