Dresden 1945 75 years ago!

And others have read where it’s hundreds of thousands…

According to the Red Cross at the end of WW2, 272,000 Jews died during WW2. This figure was accepted worldwide.

There weren’t even 6 million Jews in all of Europe at the time, let alone 8 million.

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270,000 deaths in German camps (Red Cross figure) included virtually all nationalities, including Germans and Jews.

Causes of death: disease and malnutrition.

Why disease and malnutrition?
German railroad network had been severely bombed by the Allies and the camps couldn’t get sufficient medication and food. Before that, life in the camps was much safer than in big cities.

Germans evacuated the camps in Eastern Europe after the advancement of the Red Army began, because Germans knew that camp inmates would be killed by Stalin’s troops.

Holo-hoax was invented long after WWII ended.

Real holocaust was mass murder of German citizens (by starvation) after the war ended.
(Morgenthau Plan https://www.wearethemighty.com/history/morgenthau-plan-postwar-germany-wwii?rebelltitem=2#rebelltitem2)

I have, when it comes to their print stories they are no better than Pravda under the Soviet System.

It’s a bit more than chinaware, :roll_eyes: such as exquisite architecture for one thing. And you seem to be overlooking the firestorms which reduced an entire population to charcoal . . . and none of it necessary? FFS get a grip Jim, I had you down as being smarter than that.

FFS can you start another thread about your obsession with Soviet Russia? I mean, who the hell remembers Soviet Russia!! This one’s about Dresden!

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I’m well aware of the atrocity; I was just being sarcastic.

This is believable: Five million of these were non-Jewish. Three million were Polish Christians and Catholics. It would be very sad to forget even one precious life extinguished so ruthlessly. It would be a tragedy to forget five million.

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When the war was winding down, the Russians were just as evil as the Nazis. The only sanity ( if you can call it sanity ) came from the Yanks & the Brits. And even the Americans & British sometimes crossed the line. IN PICTURES: How German women suffered largest mass rape …

Right.
Killing millions of Germans by starvation — after the war ended.

History will have us believing, only Jews suffered. War always creates pandemonium. Rhyme & reason is the very first to go. Logistics often become nonexistent. It always boils down to, a handful of lunatics cause immeasurable human misery.

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Churchill gleefully ordered direct attacks against cities like Dresden filled with nothing but art, cultural artifacts, women and children. Fuck that piece of shit. Fuck Roosevelt, too.

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The entire population was not reduced to charcoal. That is simply a lie.

Putin who runs Russia today is a product of the cold war, he was a Soviet KGB agent and continues to run the country very similar to the old gov’t particularly with respect to the use of propaganda.

You are dangerously ignorant.

Stalin was always as evil as Hitler and arguably even worse. The reason Soviet casualties were so enormous was him personally ordering even unarmed civilians to fight to the death to resist the Nazi invasion and he was more than willing to sacrifice entire army groups to slow the advance so he could buy time to get their industry which had to be moved hundreds of miles to the east to be out of range of German Bombers up and running.

Following the war the reprisals by Stalin’s henchmen murdered entire remaining populations of cities and towns in what had been Nazi Occupied territory because he saw them as traitors simply for surrendering and not being murdered en masse by the Nazis.

Fun fact: Some American bombers on their way to Dresden got lost and accidentally bombed Prague. “hey there is a city with a river running through, it must be it."

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At Stalingrad, there were skirmishes where only one Russian in 5 had a weapon. They were expected to grab the rifle from the guy who was killed in front of them, and keep advancing. What I said, very often, the misery is caused by just a handful of lunatics. WC Fields was spot on when he said; during wars. the leaders of the countries involved should fight it out in a ring, with socks filled with horse shit. War is not romantic or glamorous; it is a fucking nightmare. You cannot sugar coat a nightmare.

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That aint’ exactly newsworthy. Lots of bombers got lost and had to then go to secondary and tertiary targets or hit the wrong target altogether throughout the war.

There was no GPS at the time and they frequently flew in very bad weather obscuring both landmarks as well as celestial navigation points.

I used to feel the same way but if WWII had been fought that way Stalin would have ruled the world.